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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Someday I'll pick up a 28 Nosler just to have the speed demon in the safe, but not as a first rifle :) One thing I've learned crunching numbers, recoil is such a multi factor problem. Add a pound to one rifle and shave few ounces on another and the whole landscape shifts, not to mention the...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    From what I've seen the 7 PRC is absolutely awesome on the ballistics, but it jumps your recoil from the ~20 ft lbs of the 270 and 6.5 PRC to ~30 ft lbs
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Yeah, I think the option to pull the emergency lever and buy a box at the local store is something I want to keep on the table (especially as a new reloader)
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Hahaha, it's part of the fun for sure! Even if I end up talking myself in circles a dozen times The PRC and the 270 look like they have about the same recoil, so I think I've come around on that front. Now the question is if I go new-fangled or classic, and how much I want to tinker on the...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    The 280 AI was definitely leading the pack for me for a while, but rifles (esp lefty rifles) are real hard to find right now, as is ammo. Absolutely goldilocks cartridge though
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Always appreciate the input! The twist is more in my mind for the 270, since browning just started releasing a set at 1:7.5 (but righty only and in 26-28 inch barrels)
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Dang son - took a quick look and that thing is cruising
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    One added benefit that the 270 has going for it if I'm going classic cartridge is that it's what most of the family shoots, so easy ammo if I need it, cousins who reload, all that stuff
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    The 10k elevation opened things up for sure - I've been re-running my numbers this weekend and that really makes it more of a "pick your cartridge" game. I've also been sanity checking myself on the recoil front, because I've shot the family 270 plenty of times over the years and never felt...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    I know it's not the best rule, but it's a useful one. Honestly the bigger thing with the 308 is the speeds, as lots of the higher performing bullets seem to want you at that 1900+ fps for reliable full expansion
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Honestly the 308 numbers just haven't been impressive, and lately the most common ammo on the shelves has been 6.5 CM or 6.5 PRC (at least around me). I have been giving the good ol' 270 another look lately, and man does that thing hold up! The issue I have with both the 308 and the 270 is that...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Creed to a 30 nosler?! That's quite the step
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Yeah, the accuracy guarantee is less worrying to me that the extremely short warranty. Could definitely see a flaw in the carbon fiber stock not showing itself immediately for instance
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Good advice on factory ammo to start. That's part of what pushed me off the 280 AI, didn't want my first shots to also be my first hand loads and AI ammo is almost as rare as lefty guns!
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Dang man! Just looked it up and you've got a point Savage - no accuracy guarantee, 1 year warranty CA - sub moa guarantee, lifetime warranty That's a big difference. And I know in an ideal world I wouldn't need either, but it says a lot about the company's confidence in their products imo
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    I'm a bit tempted to give the UL scope a try (at that price why not?) Which could bring me to sub 7 lbs :)
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Hahaha, that's the attitude I like! (Even if my wallet doesn't) I think the ultralight is the move, but I definitely see the wisdom in dropping the caliber and putting some serious rounds through the barrel. Might also be easier as a newb reloader to have the more established creedmoor cartridge
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    That's where my gut is leaning, but then again my gut almost walked me into a sub 8 lb 7 PRC early on so I figured I'd get some other opinions lol
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Alrighty, some interesting numbers for you. Assuming no suppression (since the ATF will have that in jail for who knows how long), here are some recoil numbers for my front running options (all run using nosler load data for consistency): 6.5 CM, 8 lb rifle, 120 grain: 11 ft lbs 6.5 CM, 8 lb...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Aside from taming recoil, is there a general stability advantage to having a heavier gun? Or are we saying creedmore to tame the recoil and then go as light as I want?

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