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    Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?

    6.8 Western should have been 7 Western. The biggest drawback of the 6.8mm is the almost complete void of good bullets produced in that size. If you handload then choose whatever you want, but I think 7mm gives about the best combo of bullet selection, external & terminal performance, and recoil...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    I'm excited for the Mk4HD. I look forward to peoples experience and feedback with them. I think the 2.5-10 and 4.5-18 are going to be very popular crossover scopes that see a lot of market share. It seems like Leupold is really making headway on correcting the oddities that they've held onto in...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    The ruling out is a choice to be made by the purchaser. The drop tests aren't making companies stop producing the scopes. Leupolds have a long-running history of losing zero from silly stuff. The drop tests are useful and I haven't argued against that, only against mis-applying them. Which...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    That is correct, you can never 100% know your gear is good, but it gives you a 99% answer which is exactly what you're hoping for. Hunting doesn't carry any guarantees anyway. But it's a very reasonable verification. It also is exactly why I wouldn't drop test my own scope. It's a great test to...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    That would suck! That's exactly the benefit of communal feedback and the drop tests - you can rule out really junk optics/mounts. It's nice to know that the scope model you've chosen has a certain baseline robustness. That just doesn't apply to major events, which frankly, dropping a 8-12lb...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    We are in agreement about the tests and what they offer. I'm not misusing anything here that I can see. My point isn't what the tests offer - it is how they've been applid by many people. A lot of faith has been put into scopes that aren't that good because they pass the test and a lot of other...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    The "rule" that you have to test is simply the reality that you can never know something without proving it. You cannot know that your rifle is good to go without checking zero. You can assume - which is really what we're doing a lot of, and is a reasonable thing to do, and is where the drop...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    I don't have to prove to you why you should rezero if you drop your gun - you have to prove why a complete rifle package can be expected to maintain zero despite the endless variations between individual scope samples and the unique nature of every real-world drop based on a single-sample test...
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    The New Leupold Mark 4HD?

    Leupold really figured out their scopes with the Mk5HD. The Mk4HD is built downstream of that knowledge/manufacturing and has already exhibited some major improvements to the issues Leupold has had in the market for a long time; expensive illumination and bad reticle selection. They're also...
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    Sold Tikka AICS Long Action bottom metal & LA Magazine

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    WTS Sitka Dew Point rain jacket (XL)

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    Sold Tikka AICS Long Action bottom metal & LA Magazine

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    WTS Sitka Dew Point rain jacket (XL)

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    Sold Tikka AICS Long Action bottom metal & LA Magazine

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    WTS Sitka Dew Point rain jacket (XL)

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    WTS Sitka Dew Point rain jacket (XL)

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    Elk pack size

    I love my Exo K3. It can be packed down pretty small and light, and can really carry an elk load. I use the 4800 pack and it’s great. We packed out two elk this season between two of us and the pack did 100%, it was comfortable enough at about 140lbs when I had a hind quarter, back straps, rifle...
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    Sold Nightforce Unimount: 30mm, 1.500", 20 MOA

    I have a NF Unimount for sale in great shape. $190 shipped Paypal F&F preferred
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    Sold Tikka AICS Long Action bottom metal & LA Magazine

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