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  1. ckleeves

    Berger Elite Hunter and COAL vs chamber

    Ya you’re probably going to need calipers. What rifle and/ or bottom metal is your rifle?
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    Berger Elite Hunter and COAL vs chamber

    Measure your magazine? I guess I’m not understanding.
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    2024 co elk recaps

    The recap “Drawn out at” does NOT include the hybrid draw. Here is a screenshot: As you can see it took 16 as a res to swim in the high points pool (drawn out at) but 2 lucky dudes drew with 6 in the Hybrid but the recap only shows them in the “Post draw successful” section.
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    How common are mature bucks?

    My wife had a decent CO tag last year and I would guess we looked at over 150 bucks between a week of scouting and 5 days of hunting. Out of those 150+ bucks only 3 legitimately topped 160”. The past few years have been brutal on mature bucks in CO. Lots of guys throw out 170” like every decent...
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    How common are mature bucks?

    “Drainage” is a pretty broad term. I just measured a few drainages that I often hunt and came up with 11,000 to 30,000 acres. I’ll agree that somewhere in that 30,000 acres there is a 180” buck. You could also hunt it for 10 days straight and hardly scratch the surface when it comes to finding...
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    Average archery shot on early season mulies

    I have had a couple where I knew the clock was ticking on the wind changing and it was either throw a rock and hope they stood good or force it to a position I could shoot bedded real close. Rock toss is a dangerous game that you only win about 20% of the time so I’ll usually opt for the point...
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    Which cal for varmint bolt gun?

    Proof prefits and good factory ammo pretty much lands you at 6 Creed.
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    How far does stealth REALLY matter?

    For sure it’s area dependent. Individual bucks are different on what they will put up with also. They all have a little different personality and it doesn’t always run hand in hand with age or antler size. Seen some crazy clever big bucks and some that were dumb as a box of rocks. Unfortunately...
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    How far does stealth REALLY matter?

    I don’t even know if I would call them habituated bucks. You can pick an extremely remote basin in the middle of the Weminuche and it’s gonna see hikers and sheep herders all summer. It’s just Colorado in general. If it’s scenic it’s getting hiked, biked or ATV’d, if it’s sage and grass it’s...
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    How far does stealth REALLY matter?

    If your scenario is set in Colorado high country that buck has already seen at least a dozen hikers at 1.5 miles that morning. If they snuck out of a bed everytime they saw someone at that distance they wouldn’t stop moving from June till October. Put on the bright colored Pataguchi, don’t stop...
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    WTS/WTT LH Misery Customs .260

    2700.00 shipped for everything.
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    Cheaper Lithium trolling motor batteries?

    Quick update, the only issue I have had so far is my NOCO will occasionally throw a “High Voltage” code at the end of charging. What’s interesting is I bought a Litime charger for the the Litime 100AH “mini” I picked up to run my graphs and black box on since they were dragging my cranking...
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    Colorado Second Draw Question

    When it comes to Rifle tags not many make it past the youth round. Last year there were quite a few archery tags that didn’t even make it past the youth round. You can look up the second draw recap and see how many tags there were (it’s probably going to be totally different this year) but you...
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    We need to start lobbying for point system reform

    Outfitters would really love this idea when their clientele pool takes a nose dive. There are simple solutions for reducing point creep (at least in CO). Any A list tag takes your points even if it’s a LO voucher. That one’s gonna be huge. If you want to take it further and really flatten...
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    We need to start lobbying for point system reform

    So you’re stuck no matter if the easy to draw unit you pick just happens to be the one everybody else does so now you’re committed for 10 years for a garbage tag? Or CWD prevalence goes thru the roof, or they double tags or cut tag numbers in half, or a massive fire goes thru, or there is bad...
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    WTS Hilleberg Nallo 4GT with footprint

    Nallo 4GT with footprint. Tent is used, has a little sun fading on a few of the pole sleeves and a few tiny ember holes. I only found 2 tiny holes but there might be more. Includes footprint. Used it last year archery season and stayed dry thru some bad storms. Plan on buying some stakes because...
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    We need to start lobbying for point system reform

    These threads are always good. While I agree changes could be made some of you guys want to make the most convoluted and confusing draw systems in history.
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    We need to start lobbying for point system reform

    What you want would make things worse. Let’s take Wy and CO as examples. If you force people to apply all they have to do is find a tag that’s impossible or .5% odds and apply for it. In Co hybrid draw odds are already horrible for residents, so let’s force more people into those draws to...
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    WTS/WTT LH Misery Customs .260

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    Age Restrictions in Lieu of APRs?

    I feel like season dates play a big roll in mule deer harvest especially when it comes to mature bucks. That’s probably the easiest way to manipulate harvest, dates don’t have to swing by more then a week or two and finding and killing mature deer can get much more difficult. If Co didn’t have...

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