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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    That’s why I mention the bow shooting well out to long ranges in the OP. I didn’t go into detail about tuning but I do make sure to let folks know that the arrows are flying well and shooting true with broadheads…. I would assume that folks would read that to mean they are flying with field...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    The bow is well tuned. I also shot probably 100 series with a broadhead to ensure that it was flying with the field tips. I made sure to take lots of cold shots as well to make sure I had good form and broadhead flight cold. Shot with broadheads well out to 100 yards. Taking the time to tune...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    I do in the original post. I broadhead tuned to 100 yards. I focused a lot on this over the last couple years. The arrow was very borderline on being underspined so I do think that could be a culprit.
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Pointing out the flaws in the arrow performance isn’t me absolving myself of any responsibility, just to clarify. Arrow 1 was not placed perfect that much is sure. Had I slipped it through a rib right into the heart or lungs problem solved game over I have a dead bull on my hands with no...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Addressing Ethics: I have now had the benefit of time that all you have enjoyed. I try to learn from everything in every way possible. My hunting buddy and I talked about this in detail right on the spot. The coulda, woulda, shoulda's all of us hunters do after every encounter. The...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    An elk has about 5-6 gallons of blood. So they can lose quite a bit before losing consciousness especially amped up but yeah gallons was an exaggeration. Fueled mostly by blood splatters on rocks. A small volume leaves a big splash. I need to get the photos and video from my buddy from when...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    I am quite certain I hit him forward toward the shoulder. Yes I can’t be 100 percent without getting eyes on the animal. Having seen what some setups do against bone and taking into consideration the deflection of my second shot by a simple rib. I think I certainly would have significantly...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    This is where shit got weird for us as well. The bull had a trail. A decent trail to side hill on before he kicked it straight uphill. I tracked blood straight up the steep hill for a solid 400 yards. It was him going almost straight up and not turning around. This required crawling and...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Yeah, this was also our early attempt at getting FOC. We discussed the list ad nauseam on the way home and it rings so true. I stuck with these arrows because it shot so well in my bow and had taken a buck fine. My buddies adapted and have had great success with much “worse” shots. They gave...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Perfectly valid opinion. Split second decision that I made. Could have watched the bull from shot 1 run off with an arrow in it and passed on a chance to put it down or like what happened shoot a second bull. We did consider our second tag filled and got out quick as possible.
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Also just wanted to mention my anecdotal experience with the boutique setups isn’t limited to the femur shot. Last year my buddy put one through both knuckles of a cow killing her right in her bed. Another buddy had a clean pass through at 30 that stuck into a tree on the other side. He hit a...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Yeah, I’ve killed 5 bucks and a cow elk with a bow. I’ve hunted since I was old enough and have taken probably close to 30 big game animals. In that time I have lost 3 of them. Including this bull. We are used to hitting bone and having deflection or it stopping the arrow. Setups exist that...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    The shot wasn’t through brush if that helps. The legs and lower vitals were obscured by grass but there was almost all of the lungs open on the first shot. Second shot only parts obscured were some of the antlers and the front leg. Lungs were wide open.
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    That’s not something I was expecting either and wouldn’t think was possible. Do you have other things you have observed that explain the exit and trajectory? I want an arrow setup that gives full pass through for a shot like that. I do get that people who weren’t there will get on a high...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    I should have been more clear on a couple things. I had tracked the elk for over two miles and did not find blood after the trees. Last blood was becoming only dark smears under branches at ankle level found every 20 or so yards crawling under sage brush in a circle. My hunting party was...
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    Lessons Learned: Complete Arrow Failure on Elk

    Here is my 2021 elk story warts and all. Hoping someone can learn from this. The good. I harvested my first archery bull. The bad, I hit another bull and the arrow setup failed for a second time on the second bull. First my setup: Bow: Hoyt carbon defiant 70lbs Arrow: 330 spine easton hexx...
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    X Bolt rebarrel

    Not exactly what you’re looking for but wanted to offer some hope. I found lots of accounts of browning a bolt rifles being nearly impossible to change the barrels on. So I went to my small town average gunsmith and he just smirked and said he loves that rumor and that a rebarreling browning...
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    Oregon’s change to controlled archery deer

    I know a couple folks who get a couple cougars a year in Oregon with effort. Some use the persistence hunting method of tracking in fresh snow and one guy uses an e caller after locating fresh tracks. He uses cat in heat all season long with success.
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    Oregon’s change to controlled archery deer

    It would be interesting to see what a 7-10 day effort similar to the effort we put in for deer and elk each year would yield for cats. Lots of people complain hardly anyone goes out to hunt them. Me included.
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    Ochoco Unit 37: Archery Elk - 2020

    Ditto. I’ve hunted the Ochoco’s successfully but the roads and abuse by the locals makes it unlikely I’ll return. Gunshots in the middle of the night. Trash everywhere. Two track in the wilderness. So much potential wasted.
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