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  1. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Thursday. Still time to get people to make calls
  2. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    The House FWP committee will vote on this today or Thursday. There's a chance that this bill will die if hunters keep the pressure on. If you live in a district represented by one of the following reps, please call (don't email) and let them know that you won't support them if they support this...
  3. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Yeah, see PERC's argument at the North American Conference this year that we have to reform the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation to better serve landowners. Our whole conversation around elk management in Montana is based on a lie: units at objective represent what the landscape...
  4. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    I don't disagree, but you won't get very far in this state with that line of argument. I know some ranchers who take a big hit every year because of elk, and I've got sympathy for them. I also feel for the elk, who have pretty marginal browse and winter range in a lot of places because of cattle...
  5. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

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  6. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    I absolutely agree with you that hunters, especially in Montana, tend to ignore the value of private lands as part of landscape ecology. Hell, my family owns a fair amount of land in Central Montana that is chock full of elk, and we do our best to make sure the habitat can sustain as many head...
  7. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    No. From conversations with two R's on the committee this week, it sounds like there isn't enough opposition on the committee to kill it. They'll amend it down so they can say they listened to sportsmen, then ram it through. Pretty tough for the likes of us to compete with the governor and the...
  8. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2021/AmdPublicWeb/HB0505.001.001.pdf Just knocking the bonus point incentive from 5 down to 1. Doesn't fix the bill, and is likely what they had in mind all along.
  9. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Not sure how to do that... Can an admin move it over?
  10. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    RMEF needs your calls. They're putting together a statement, but I've got a feeling it's going to be a bunch of doublespeak and fluff. 406-523-4500.
  11. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Sure, but there are a hell of a lot of guys driving around MT with RMEF plates and member stickers who won't. My membership has lapsed (this being the sort of reason I let it go) but if I were still a member I'd be pissed that they hadn't spoken up, given that this bill could allow more tags...
  12. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Not to mention, the United Property Owners of Montana asked in the hearing yesterday that this be amended to include all units, including limited draws, that are at or above objective. Still can't fathom the silence from RMEF and the various influencers who piped up on the outfitter bill. This...
  13. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Call these reps Fielder: (406) 210-5943 Hinkle: 406 992-0703 Berglee: 406 690-9329 Fitzgerald: 406 467-2032 406 788-1443 Putnam: 406 233-9463 Duram: 406 471-2356 Reksten: 406 471-8359 406 883-4454 Loge: 406 649-2368 406 544-5220
  14. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Yeah that was a weak response. Good showing at the hearing though. It’s time to turn up the heat — this will pass through committee unless the more reasonable R’s hear from a lot of Montanans.
  15. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Absolutely. There's a ton of good people at FWP who are just as fed up with this unscientific, anti-elk dogma as the rest of us. However, there are also a few folks at the middle manager level who are so tired of hearing from ranchers that they end up pushing stuff like this, or letting shoulder...
  16. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    It's both of them. The department knew Galt was going to introduce another godawful elk bill, so they asked if they could tack some of their ideas on to it. FWP and Gianforte need to hear from hunters that this won't fly... I've sat in on a lot of elk management meetings over the last couple of...
  17. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    https://leg.mt.gov/session/have-your-say/ @S.Clancy More the merrier. Light 'em up!
  18. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    Bumping this back up
  19. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    If you have any elk points built up in Montana, this would make them pretty much worthless after a couple years. Basically, if I go shoot a cow on private land for three years, I'll have 18 points. That would put me in the running for the Elkhorns, Bearpaws, Breaks, you name it. Anyone who...
  20. finner

    Montana elk hunting is about to take a dive

    I doubt Tabor will do anything. As an outfitter, he's part of an industry that would stand to profit under this bill. Call reps on the House FWP committee and tell them to stop screwing with elk
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