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  1. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    No I live in Idaho because of the access to the great outdoor opportunities and it being a great place to work. I used to live just outside of Cleveland and worked pretty much everywhere east of the Mississippi River for over 10 years, quite often in some pretty rough inner city neighborhoods...
  2. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Racism is rampant all of the world. I don't know how you can act like it doesn't happen when there is so much proof everywhere that it is. Just because it happens one place means it can't happen outdoors? The guy who founded the organization is one- so there's proof right away.
  3. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    I'm not looking for any of that. I saw exactly what I saw. And just because it doesn't align with most of the people on here right now doesn't mean that it's wrong or I'm being untruthful about it.
  4. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    I can't even try to reason with this thread anymore. Much like @Marbles from above thinks- this thread is filled with ideals I don't even want to attempt to reason with anymore. Happy hunting this year boys!
  5. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Of course I didn't take photos. Again, just because you didn't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't you have non resident hunters in Idaho to complain about?
  6. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Yes, and I saw exactly what I said I saw. As well as the three other guys I was with
  7. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    You say that they do, but I highly doubt you've ever been in their shoes to know if they've experienced discrimination or not.
  8. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Good science isn't amoral. When things like religious beliefs and political leanings get thrown into it (much like the majority of what this dumpster fire of a thread has turned into), that's when it becomes immoral. You can't really argue with science because scientific research and findings...
  9. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    This kind of nonsense? They're quite literally saying they just believe that minority individuals should have the same rights and freedoms in the outdoors as a white guy living across the street. You're not literally saying that not everyone deserves access, but you're coming pretty close to it...
  10. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    I guarantee you that it was around 2010 because it was when I was still an undergrad. There wasn't a sign on the door that said it for everyone to see, but it was definitely an unwritten rule that was obviously still being followed. You obviously have not been to the area we were hunting.
  11. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    My point is who the hell cares if Mystery Ranch is saying they support an organization that promotes inclusivity of historically minority groups? The only way I could see anyone being up in arms is if they were funneling a bunch of money to them. So you're saying that you don't think ANYONE...
  12. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    You told me to hide behind the euphemism. And I quite bluntly told you that I wasn't "hiding" behind it because an abortion (which is what you were implying) is a very small part of women's rights as a whole and that I wasn't trying to soften the stance that I fully support any decision a woman...
  13. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Pretty vague. Yes, they could be donating lots of money. But they could also be doing nothing but saying they support them. And if it gets more minorities into the woods hunting and fishing, I don't see how that is a bad thing?
  14. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Just because hunters returned in more numbers in 2020 doesn't mean it has reversed the trend that has been going on since the 80's. And when you have people like the Bowmar's, Sterling's, Gritty, and others putting black eyes on the community on almost a monthly basis, it's not hard to see how...
  15. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    It was just a simile alluding to the fact that it happens to non resident hunters all the time. You mean to tell me that you don’t think that would happen to anyone recreating outdoors because they were black? It doesn’t have to be a “thug” or a “punk”- hell some of the most racist, vile humans...
  16. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    I’ve hunted some places (northern Alabama for turkeys for instance) where restaurants still had a colored dining room and a white dining room. And this was in 2010ish? I’m pretty sure if you looked in the right places, you’d be able to find plenty of examples.
  17. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    Do you really think you’re doing much for this organization by buying a backpack or hat from mystery ranch? There’s nothing said about them donating millions of dollars- literally “we support their mission” is all they say.
  18. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    A fetus isn’t even viable until 8 months after conception. So realistically it could be defined as a parasite up to that point, as it needs a host to survive. And the vast majority of abortions happen well before that- as in 6-7 months before that. So no, it’s definitely a part of their body...
  19. jlaner0408

    Mystery Ranch Gets 'Woke' - Dives into Politics

    If non-resident hunters vehicles get vandalized when trying to hunt a new area (of which I know of many instances this has happened), then I guarantee you that there are plenty of people of color that have stories of stuff like this happening. Just because you’ve never talked to one doesn’t...
  20. jlaner0408

    WTT H1000

    I don’t want to hijack this thread- but I’m also in SE Idaho and have 1,000 large pistol primers that I literally have no use for (shipping screw up on Natchez’s part). You SE Idaho boys need any? I’m in IF

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