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Help Me Pick a 7MM-08
I would vote xbolt. I bought my first ever xbolt - a 6.8W speed SR and it has been outstanding. I am going to pling some plates tomorrow or next day and shot a couple of groups with 165 ablr today to confirm zero and both 1/2 moa. Anyway, gun has been a shooter and honestly the xbolt was... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
I am very familiar with 7prc as had a 7mm wsm which is very simlar for about 10 years. In fact it was rebarreled to 6.8W. RL26 makes the 7mm wsm sing by the way. I was shooting 168 bergers and the 6.8 came out and could get similar down range performance with 170 bergers because they have... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Nice! I was just in Allen Cabelad buying some 308 goodies. I talked to guy at gun counter and asked him what is selling. Said by far dominant is 223 and 308, with 6.5 cm a lot as well. After that big drop off, but said 243 and 270 still strong. I asked about 6.8W and he said not much. I... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Yes. It is anecdotal. The ammo guys used to publish their lists but not seen one in long time. I am just going by what is on shelves locally though I am a big gun friendly area (DFW). May vary regionally Lou -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
The 7mm prc has 15% more recoil than 6.8 and with hunting ammo the 6.8 had minutely more if any drift / drop than 6.5 prc. The 7prc holds 9-10 gr more powder and shoots a bullet 15 -20 gr velocity the same speed as 6.8 W. This is about same between 6.5 and 6.8. If hit harder is a debunked... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
No, I am just using common sense. Go to the big box stores and see what and how much of what is in stock. The 6.5 prc came out what in 2018. There is a tiny number of these new rifles out there compared to established rounds. This new stuff may be the only cartridges see on tv or youtube... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
I don’t disagree much with what saying except that the 270 win still well outsells the prcs. It may not for some smaller niche makers but not with big guys unless they are selling vast amounts of one load online. Cabelas has stacks of 270 on shelf vs 2-3 varieties of 6.5 prc and none of 7... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Well, sort of and this is one area I wholeheartedly agree with you on Win vs Hornady. When the 165 ablr load and in particular the 175 tgk load is available sells quickly. The 162 copper load and 170 sp loads are most available but not sexy. Folks who like the monos are happy but still... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Balderdash - I don’t disagree at all. I dont think there is a noticeable difference in anything you said on your list. I do like the option of higher sd/heavier 6.8 bullets for better chance of exits on close shots, particularly with the softer LR bullets as I shoot a lot of pigs at closer... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Form - I have seen your MO on various posts here and not playing your games. I am not one of your followers but I am also not one of your haters. What I or you do or dont do has little to do with this conversation. I will say the same to you on what I shoot, like, etc. If you want to... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
He is pushing the hornady eldm load here as why PRC is superior. I did not see any ref to TMK. Not sure you can get a factory TMK prc load? In any case I did not say could not use eldm for hunting or that it is not a good hunting bullet. However it is not the reason the PRC is popular with... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
Lots. I have 2 6.8 and a 1-8 270 wsm. I also own my own property and hunt and shoot a lot. The 170 berger is a hammer and has a similar bc to the 156 berger I can say it drops game much more dramatically them the 140 berger 6.5, at least out of the creedmoor which I have also used a bit. So... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
And the 300 prc/30 nosler is more than 7prc and the 338 lapua, 375 cheytac, more than 300 etc. Pick your recoil and performance level. The 6.8 fits in there directly between 6.5/7prc. Maybe it is the new 280/280ai stuck between 270/30-06. Who knows, but still plenty of market for it. I... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
I agree the 6.5 prc is bigger “risk” to 6.8 W success than 7 prc. The 6.8w was not concieved to compete with a long action 7mm. The 6.8W was built to give a heavy bullet alternative to 6.5s in a short action without heavy recoil which it does very well. Hunters have overwhelmingly migrated to... -
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Is the 6.8 western gaining traction or did the 7mm prc finish it off?
The 6.8W has 4 grains less capacity than 270 wsm so technically recoils a bit less though not enough to notice. The 6.8W capacity is around 74gr, 270 wsm is around 78gr and the 7prc is around 83 gr. So the 7prc will be about like 300 wsm or standard factory loaded 300 win mag.m (ie 180@2950)... -
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Ballistic Coefficients
ABs (and Bergers) are averaged from 3000-1500 fps. I think Hornadies are to 800 yards which could be much less than where a bullet crosses 1500 fps. They also publish by mach number and if I remember their lowest mach number was still above 1900 fps. I don’t know if explains all the... -
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New Barnes 7mm LRX 152 gr for 7SAUM?
Around 40 mins in on the short range cartridge blog which is blog or 2 later than shot show blog -
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New Barnes 7mm LRX 152 gr for 7SAUM?
There was a later ome - it may have been the close range cartridges one but he did talk bc numbers Lou -
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New Barnes 7mm LRX 152 gr for 7SAUM?
Joseph Von Benedikt talked about this load in one of his recent backcountry hunting podcasts. Apparently he got a bunch of listeners to petition barnes to create a 280 ai load. He went through the details on bc, velocity but I dont remember them. You can google the podcasts and listen to the...
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