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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Sorry for that snarky post. Uncalled for. Lou
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I simply don’t understand this situation. If I miss it is not because I don’t know where I expect the bullet to go. It is because I missed. What am I correcting? If the bullet goes somewhere I am not expecting then I would be shooting beyond my ability, which I know well before going...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I agree! More practice is a good reason! I am not against less recoiling cartridges. My long time favorite is the old 270 Win, which got the big bore guys wound up long before even the 223 was a thing. I am simply disagreeing with the notion that you can’t shoot a heavier recoiling...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Somebody said how do you know where to aim if you miss the first shot. Why should you change your aim on the next shot unless you did not know where to aim on the first. Missing a shot is not the same as not knowing where to aim on the first. Everybody except perfect internet experts miss...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    It will become obnoxious. Anything will. I will type slow so the point maybe makes sense … picking a round because you can shoot it 100, 1000, 10000, etc times in a row is an irrelevant criteria for selecting a hunting rifle. Picking a cartridge you shoot well is regardless if you can shoot...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    You should not be missing because you did not know where the shot was going relative to your hold. Lou
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Me? Not had that problem, but I am not recoil sensitive. I am assuming that for people who need to shoot a 223 because they are it will be a problem. It is nothing to be ashamed of. The effects of recoil are cumilative and just because your shooting eventually gets worse does not mean your...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Speed of follow up is different terminology to me than spotting your shot. I could see some advantage there Lou
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    No. The focus should be getting ready to shoot again not wondering how bad you missed because you didn’t know where to hold the first time. Any case, you can easily spot shots with something larger than a 223 and you can get back on target quickly if have control of the rifle even if scope...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Shooting scores with 10, 50, 100 rounds etc have nothing to do with hunting accuracy. Unless you just have a flinch, where any shot is bad, the effects of recoil is cumulative. Your score and groups may get worse as you go along. However, I can’t imagine shooting at a big game animal enough...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Far as I know none of the big PRS guys shoot 223. I guess they know to shoot bigger cartridges when needed even if more recoil. Lou
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I have no issue with somebody using a 223 to hunt if that is what they want, but some of the nonsense like you need to do so because recoil or spotting shots is silly and not relevant for hunting. If you can shoot your rifle well, whether a 300 or 223 then good to go. The fact you can shoot a...
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    280 ackley vs 6.8 western

    Think both are great cartridges. Both are similar ballistically. The main difference is short action for 6.8W and 6.8W saami is faster twist so factory loads will get the longer bullets where need to handload for 280ai to get them. Neither are great for brass currently but can easily be...
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    Match bullets vs early hunting bullets

    They can have similar performance. Assuming a bullet has a means to expand (exposed lead, poly tip, etc) The main difference from a jacket standpoint is the match bullet typically has a thin straight taper jacket. For ex, it may be .025 thick front to back. The thin uniform jacket will have...
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    Support for 6.8 western?

    I have owned several 270 Wsms and currently own a 270 WSM that Shaen Rifles rebarreled with a Hawk Hill 1-8” #2. I have boat loads of 270 wsm stuff so dont buy any factory ammo, but my local Cabelas normally has 270 WSM Win factory ammo - the 130 extreme point and/or copper impact. I also see...
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    Support for 6.8 western?

    Why? The 270 wsm isn’t going anywhere. It was one of the more popular intros since 2000. Winchester and most other makers load for it as there are a lot of rifles out there. Both ADG and Petersen are adding brass for it this year. It puzzles me why people think a round needs to be 6.5 cm...
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    Support for 6.8 western?

    As fyi, oLatest Backcounty hunting podcast on elk cartridges has some nice things to say about 6.8W. It may cause the 223/eld crowd to burst a blood vessel;). Also the Patreon has a nice blog on 6.8W in Africa. Lou
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    How did the 6.5 Creedmoor lose steam so quickly?

    6.5 cm is still popular in my neck of woods. I recently asked fhe gun counter guys at my local LGS and Cabelas what rifles are selling and they said mostly 223 and 308. The next group is 6.5cm, 243, and 270. This is TX so not need for magnums. Said sell little PRC or Westerns. Also, after...
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    6.8 Western Brass

    Hornady and Berger make high bc 25 cal bullets. I don’t follow it, but I have read 25 cal is gaining some popularity in PRS as easier to spot impacts vs 6mms w/out recoil of 6.5s. Lou
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    6.8 Western Brass

    It would suprise me if Win did a 7mm Western. They picked 6.8W for a reason. The 180 eldms/195s will not work well for factory loads in a short action and if shooting lighter bullets a 27 cal will have advantage. There is a reason Hornady went LA for 7prc and Win chose a .27 cal for SA. It...
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