I never went, a buddy had gone around the breaks and came back with just a dismal report so I bailed on it. Im going to try applying next year with 0 pts to see if I pull a tag just because there really isnt anywhere left to go unless you wait 5-10 years. Pretty much only CO(its a complete zoo), ID(looooong drive from WI) or MT which you can get in 3 years or less.