I’ve used a 1.5-4.5 on a woods gun for many years for hunting where shots are usually 20-40 yards, and rarely past 75. Have since switched to a 2.5-10 and now a 3-9, but I really miss the field of view of the little scope when using the 3-9. I’d about give up a finger for a 1.5-6 or 2-7 x 40...
Fair point, since I made it. To be entirely fair though, the quote I was referring to didnt contain the original question or any detail beyond the short soundbite, which leaves the contradiction of factory-issued oiled screws entirely unaddressed. If it had been followed up by a pointed question...
Below exchange with Seekins Precision just moments ago--their response is verbatim. Dude was honest with me and quick to reply and gave me permission to quote him here (I asked after the exchange). I have several sets of their rings, which I have had nothing but good luck with.
Me: is there...
Agree, I just dont think the article is really newsworthy. I think the “rebuttal” I posted was simply because the entire article consists of this:
As he said, its not a study, no “study” was conducted, its merely a statement that CJD clusters sometimes overlap with CWD areas, and we ought to...
Did you ask him if they have actually measured an increase in clamping force between their “lightly oiled” (ie also wet) screws versus Loctited screws, or are they assuming all their customers decrease the screws before applying a calibrated torque wrench?
Also, since this seems to be such a...
Aaand, we’re right back at 1) they are clearly trying to cover their asses, they explicitly say as much.
2) their rationale is possible scope damage from a wet torque…but the screws come oiled which, unless you mount them de-greased, results in a higher torque in the first place than youd get...
Well, yes, but also no. This is sort of what I mean by confirmation bias. You sound like like you have a lot of experience, which is great. I think the trap we all can easily fall into is thinking our own experiences will be universal, and concluding that what has worked for us is likely to be...
This is true. By and large, most people that are relatively intelligent, still do stupid stuff because they dont know what and when it matters. Manufacturers, in good faith, are trying to idiot-proof their products, and in so doing, they routinely recommend practices that are “acceptable” but...
So lets get this straight.
Manufacturers ship their rings with a L-wrench, and oiled screws.
Oiled screws lubricate and create “wet torque” clamping force.
No manufacturer that I am aware of suggests degreasing the oiled screws in order to get dry torque values.
Very few, if any, people...
Fwiw, as far as loosening, I dont worry about heavy recoil vs light recoil, I worry about frequency of recoil and vibration. I never had a ring or base come loose until I started shooting a thousand+ rounds/year. Sure enough, rings and bases started loosening on everything from 22lr to bigger...
It’s hotly contested and the way people approach it is bordering on religion so a rational debate is difficult at best. I’ve personally had better luck using loctite than without—yes, Ive had multiple failures without, and none with, all with identical parts and measured torque—and I justify to...
99% of deer hunters dont need to make wind calls AT ALL. Regardless of whether using a big magnum to reduce wind error actually works, remember that MOST deer hunters are hunting whitetailed deer with 100% of shots less than 300 yards, yet magnumitis is still a common disease.